Kalgan a Blizzard poster, answered someone question on official forums and therefore provided us with infos on tiers4 armor, which is the way to obtain tiers4 armor, we will be given a token system to get tiers4 armor and choose which t4 armor is the most suited to your build.
"There is a tier 4 set for most builds for each class.
The boss drops a "token" for a certain slot for a certain set of classes (it's not really called a "token", but I'm speaking of it mechanically here), which you then turn in for the type of set piece of your choice (ie: for a warrior, the tanking plate or the dps plate, or for a druid you choose between the healing, moonkin, or feral gear)." by Kalgan
I also spoke with someone who's in tbc right now and they say that hunters are overpowered with BM @_@.
feral set? did someone say feral set?
Wow that will be nice... after i worry about finishing off the .5 upgrades which are already taking forever to get. Then I'll have to move into MC eventually for tier 1, somehow go on to BWL for tier 2 and, by some miracle of whatever god you believe in, into Naxx for tier 3. AFTER all that I get to choose uber gear that fits one spec. Woot.
I hope we're all in for the long haul, because I'm not leaving Twilight for a raiding guild:)
word brutha!!!!! we bleed...........er......what is twilight's color?
For your viewing/drooling pleasure:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=29640 (http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=29640)
Warriors look like Juggernaut in a way. Warlocks have the coolest. Paladins continue to have the worst looking sets in my opinion. There are already suggestions on the priest boards of taking all the priests with Tier 4 shoulders, lining them up in two rows and having people land their flying mounts on the newly constructed "runway." Blinking shoulders......if it weren't for the knowledge that they'll have outrageous stats, I'd be a little disgusted.
Emma
actually arc, there's no reason why we can't skip from t0 to t4, mainly because u MUST be lv70 to carry any of the t4 items, and if you've seen any of the expansion items whatsoever you'd know that by lvl 68-70 you will have replace all if not most of your t3 set items, so frankly I wouldn't want to spend all that crazy time in MC/BWL/AQ/NAXX, i'd go there for fun, but all our items will be better, and we're not talkin raid items, just dugeon stuff and reward items.
holy crap do warriors like awesome...
why do druids still get a skirt? AND look like a deer? i thought we were PRo nature....not the type to put deer heads on our walls :)
why do I get credit for that comment geno? :) uso is someone else...
I'm no expert about gear after .5 Geno, but how will we be able to get from tier 0 to tier 4 without getting the gear from MC/BWL/AQ/NAXX first? Are you saying that the random gear drops around the world on the way to 70 will be adequate to handle the situations that will yield tier 4 gear? You mention by lvl 68-70 we will have replaced tier 3 items, but you get tier 3 items in Naxx. I don't understand, I must be missing something.
btw Emma, I think the pally Judgement sets look pretty awesome:)
err sorry i was rushing and i musta scanned your name isntead of uso's for that post....the grammar in my post was trashy too :p
so ya uso, u dont need to have a teir to go to the next one. T0 to t.5 is the only exception where u need the peice to upgrade it, but t1 and so on are all random drops or rewards for collecting tokens like zg. So again, by the time we are lvl 70 we will have gear that will have surpassed t3 gear and that means we will be very well equipt to get t4. You dont need t1 to get t2 or t3 to get t4.
Like the game is situated now, you could technically skip ZG, MC, BWL and jump straight into Naxx for Tier 3. Would you want to in greens? Um, probably not. Is it an option for you to try, yea of course it is, but the game has a series of progression to it when talking about raid instances. Each one preps you with drops that will improve your ability to survive in the one after. Can you skip around some, yup, sure can, but it is going to be that much harder to be successful then.
Blizzard is taking a slightly new approach to Burning Crusade due to a lot of complaints and the total percentile of players actually staying as long to get thru Naxx. BC is supposed to have drops that trump most anything you can get in the game now from level 60-70 that would drop in the new instances as well as rewarded from quests, new factions, etc. Its not going to make the stuff that drops in BWL and MC useless at any means because those quests arent going to be easy and few will be soloable, but Blizzards intent is to go back to the smaller more focused groups rather then the huge Zergs the 40-person dungeons have basically become. Im told the instance where you get things for Tier 4 is capped at 10 persons just as an example. That means everyone has to play thier part, no slacking off on a few as you might see in the 40 persons now. So basically having good gear from places like MC, BWL, etc will allow it to be easier to accomplish those objectives in the upcoming expansion. Im sure you will prob see some green items drop in Outworld at lvl 68 or something that would outdo an epic tier item from BWL, but remember the trip youre going to have to take to get from 60-68 to get that green drop to use.
its like those epics that we see at lvl 37...gloves of holy might i think they were called...there are blues at lvl 60 that are FAR better then them...same thing with the expansion :D
I want :(
That's exactly what I was trying to say Shadow. Having tier 1 to get tier 2 or 2 to get 3 isn't required, but it'll be difficult to jump from 0-4 without following the progression of instances and leveling your gear to go on to the next. I'm glad that Blizz is reducing the lvl caps on the bigger instances though. I really want to see what these higher-level dungeons are like but I'm discouraged by the effort a 40man raid takes to organize. The idea of 10 people working in harmony to take down the most difficult bosses is very appealling to me. Looks like Blizz's new strategy fits into Twilight's future pretty well:)
There are a ton of blues that are better than some epics. Heck, the only epic items I equip right now are my lobotomizer and my ring - both from av rep.
I'm sure when I get my epic pvp gear, I'll def wear that. Raid gear? So far I have survived without and still manage to cause tons of damage and live to tell about it.
I know I'll need the raid gear sooner or later, but for now, I'm happy with what I have. And I don't really like the look of the Rogue tier 4 gear. I prefer looking like a sophisticated ninja.
the rogue tier 4 helm makes you look like Batman or something, lol.
Yea the new changes on the player caps for both the new dungeons and the old ones will work to our benefit as a guild undoubtably. Just getting a 40 person raid together is hard enough and trying to keep everyone together on what to do even with TS is just, well, not fun (been there done that and have the tattoo as well as t-shirt). 25 is 5 more then our current romps thru AQ and ZG are which we seem to have little trouble putting together and keeping everyone together as to what needs to be done.
The lower player caps give everyone a chance to learn to play the class well. That I like so much more. It gives the ability to adapt and overcome more then what the game does now which is what we have become really good at as a guild.
they're not changing the caps on the old ones...40 man will still be 40 man, but doable with a lot less as lvl 70s
I must have misunderstood, I thought they would lower the level cap to 25 on all the current 40 man content as well. It doesn't make sense to me to make the new, more difficult Outland dungeons limited to 25 and keep the current ones at 40. Why would anyone want to go through the hassle of MC, Onyxia, BWL or AQ if they were able to skip to Outland and run new 25 player intances for better gear? I don't see why you would come back to run those at 70 - nobody goes back to Uldaman or Zul Farrak at 60 to get antiquated gear. Something has to happen to make these places more appealing in the instance progression or else they'll become pointless.
Quote from: Thingiebob on October 20, 2006, 08:54:48 AMAnd I don't really like the look of the Rogue tier 4 gear. I prefer looking like a sophisticated ninja.
Crimson and black or blue and black with silver trim. Only color schemes that are vaguely acceptable. As to the models, think "sneaky guy" not "queer eye with spikes"...
so MC, bwl. Naxx won't upgrade from lvl 60 mobs to 70!? and there won't be lvl 60+ drops in it?
exactly...they are leaving the 40mans as they are....its been said multiple times...they are NOT upgrading or changin 40 mans...they are staying the same as they are now. And no it wouldn't make sense to come back to there as lvl 70, only reason we probably will is to just experience the content, the loot w ill most likely be inferior to ours...but heck lotsa nexus crystals!
You dont need to be in t3 to advance to lvl 61.....same gear u have to get to 60 from 59 will do just fine getting u to 61 and u can solo to 70....they are changing the caps to 25 because 40 mans sucked and everyone knew it...it was difficult to control lag, it felt like a zerg fest, and above all too many players couldnt' experience that content as casual players or as people who didnt want to join giant guilds and begin their hardcore raiding...
Blizzard even attempted rag with 15 lvl 70's who were well geared and took him out. With our 20-25 we could do that without a problem just as well as they did....we'll resist over half the spells in mc, bwl, aq and naxx....but even as 70s there are still some parts that will require coordination. Not even a lv70 can survive 2039482039482 damage from cthun ^_^
the only thing that i have longed for since i saw it, was the pally Judgement t2 set ... *drools*
would be nice if they did make the now 40 man's more appealing .... otherwsie its just waste of space in content really
Quote from: Muridin on October 28, 2006, 05:11:10 AM
the only thing that i have longed for since i saw it, was the pally Judgement t2 set ... *drools*
would be nice if they did make the now 40 man's more appealing .... otherwsie its just waste of space in content really
its like asking for them to make SM more appealing for lvl 60s...once you've done it u dont really come back except maybe for a twink or a challenge of some sort...but as a 60 its unlikely you'll find any upgrades there.
I'm gonna try the Cath sometime this week :P
tnx for your answer Geno :)
good to see u again tol :p