Druids did it, we'll do it too...

[Darkling]

Here are the specs I am looking at for Lvl 70:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3053000000000000000003000000000000000000000005500030333321013531051

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3053001055021025215510000000000000000000000005500030200000000000000

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?0000000000000000000003200050000000000000000005500031333321013531351

and possible combat sword spec...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3053000000000000000003200550100050150223212515000000000000000000000

[un4]

I made these long before the druids did.  They just, uh, stealthed... 

I like your combat swords build.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3050230000000000000003203550100550100000000005501001303000000000000

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3050200050000000000002000000000000000000000005500031333021003531051

Combat swords (focusing on mobility and DPS)
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3053201050000000000003200552120050150223210010000000000000000000000

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/talents.html?3053201055021320215510200000000000000000000005500000300000000000000

Little of everything there.

[Genoism]

weapon expertise is like....useless with bc's new system

[un4]

Explain.

[dharq]

Weapon skill only affects crit %... .1% crit per point of skill against mobs higher lvl than your character, to be exact.

Which begs the question, with all the new stuff going in to bring down the effectiveness of criticals, how are rogues going to fair?

I mean, a large number of their talents build off of criticals, especially the talents that generate extra cps. I have a feeling those things are going to really affect a lot of rogues.

[Darkling]

Yeah, we're getting nerfed bad. That whole resilience thing makes crits obsolete imo. blizz is f'ing up again.

[dharq]

Definitely makes premed much more interesting than it was previously..

Also makes sword rogues look much, much more tasty than anything else... High, sustained dps that isn't as dependent on crits.

Just sad to see a class that had so many options before being forced into a mold.

[Genoism]

heh what dharq said..a but confusing with all the dots in there...maybe your just really hyped up about ony...more dots!!!

so ya 1 weapon skill now equals to 0.1% crit...soo freakin useless lol

Also i dont feel they are nerfing crits THAT much, based off the items i see in the expansion there's almost +crit to every weapon out there along with +hit. Also all those classes don't reduce crit chance by a significant amount. I thing as the game will progress rogues will still be fine...specially with the boost in dmg and stamina at the cost of some crit.

[dharq]

I think for all classes except for rogues (and cat druids) the loss of crit % will be pretty much evened out with other abilities.

The fact that rogues and cats both build combo points off of crits, and rely heavily on combos for their major attacks seems to throw them way out of balance with everyone else though... No other classes (even fury warriors) rely as heavily on crits for their damage or abilities.

[un4]

I have +10% crit from talents with daggers.  I get my damage through crits.  If people are immune to my crits, or if I don't crit, I'm worth shit.

Yay 

[dharq]

ooh ooh! can we put you in a paper bag and light you on blizzard's front porch?

[un4]

No, but you can drop me off at the high-rise next door...